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Errors in the summary of the featured article
Caption: "Banded sugar worker ant with cocoon". "Sugar ant" is indivisible: should read "Banded sugar ant worker with cocoon". Thanks, Spicemix (talk) 16:40, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- It should. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:59, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
Errors with "In the news"
@Bagumba, Amakuru, Schwede66, and Stephen: Sorry I missed this discussion. It seems that in 2015 the decision was made to take the casual reader to the least EGGy page rather than the page with content regarding the winning team. It seems that in biography pages we stand at no consensus and on the main page a 2015 discussion is considered to be a consensus. The season page actually has the roster of the people who won the championship. I personally like to be able to see the people who we are actually talking about rather than the history of the franchise, but things are not going to change around here.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:16, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- @TonyTheTiger: I suggest taking this up at WT:ITN. This isn't an obvious error and had already been on ERRORs for almost day.[1] —Bagumba (talk) 05:37, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- A discussion 10 years ago between two editors seems to have set the precedence that we must now abide by. Stephen 07:37, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- It's not really that big a deal either way. Just bring it up at WT:ITN, as Bagumba suggests. Floquenbeam (talk) 13:17, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
Errors in "Did you know ..."
- ... that the mammal species found at the second-highest known altitude may be either the puna mouse or the eastern puna mouse? which are found at 6,046-metre: or the yak, found at 6100m, or the Large-eared pika, found at 6130m. Or the Bharal, also recorded at 6100m. Perhaps others my short search didn't reveal. But in any case it doesn't seem like the claim in the hook is correct. Fram (talk) 09:45, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- This is an irritating hook as it doesn't say which/where the second highest known altitude is. I presume it's a specific location but it's not telling us that. Secretlondon (talk) 11:21, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Actually looking at the articles it is talking about second-highest elevation range, not absolute elevation as claimed in the hook. This is a misunderstanding of the claim. Secretlondon (talk) 11:29, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Even the source says "elevational range limit" ie a range. People don't understand what they are writing. Secretlondon (talk) 11:30, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Any suggested re-word? I'd hate to pull it, but to be honest, even with Secretlondon's comments, I really don't even understand what the authors of that article, or our article, or this hook are actually trying to say. Floquenbeam (talk) 13:27, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Please pull. Fram (talk) 13:32, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Secretlondon:, do you agree with pulling it? Or do you think you understand what they're trying to say well enough to reword the hook? Floquenbeam (talk) 13:50, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Also, I don't know if anyone has told @SL93, Rusalkii, and Miraclepine: that we're discussing this. Floquenbeam (talk) 13:53, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- On reflection, I've temporarily pulled this. Not sure what is actually correct, and whther or not this is an easy fix, but I know as currently written it is not correct. I'd like to leave this thread here, so that maybe we can reword this and re-add it to DYK template in a little while. Floquenbeam (talk) 14:00, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- I think that's the right thing to do. Multiple sources suggest that the Large-eared pika has the 2nd highest range at ~6,100m. Not to mention that unless I've developed word-blindness the puna mouse source gives a height of 5461m [2], not 6000m (which would mean a lot of other species' range is higher). Black Kite (talk) 14:04, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks for pointing this out. Which one of my replacements would work? (ALT2 I'm inclined but ALT1 may be hookier)
- ALT1A: ... that a 2023 study says that the eastern puna mouse may have a higher elevation range than the puna mouse?
- ALT1B: ... that according to a 2023 study, the eastern puna mouse may have a higher elevation range than the puna mouse?
- ALT2: ... that the puna mouse and the eastern puna mouse have one of the highest elevation ranges of mammal species?
- ミラP@Miraclepine 14:16, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- 1A and 1B are utterly boring. One species lives higher/lower than a related one? Worse, it's hardly supported by the article. "The highest altitude record for the species, in the caldera of Acamarachi, Antofagasta, Chile, was provisionally assigned to P. lemminus, but may also have been its sister species P. kofordi. " So we don't even know which of the two it was, never mind which of them has then a higher range than the other. Fram (talk) 14:29, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks for pointing this out. Which one of my replacements would work? (ALT2 I'm inclined but ALT1 may be hookier)
- I think that's the right thing to do. Multiple sources suggest that the Large-eared pika has the 2nd highest range at ~6,100m. Not to mention that unless I've developed word-blindness the puna mouse source gives a height of 5461m [2], not 6000m (which would mean a lot of other species' range is higher). Black Kite (talk) 14:04, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- On reflection, I've temporarily pulled this. Not sure what is actually correct, and whther or not this is an easy fix, but I know as currently written it is not correct. I'd like to leave this thread here, so that maybe we can reword this and re-add it to DYK template in a little while. Floquenbeam (talk) 14:00, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry was tied up with college stuff and trying to destub something. I trust other's judgement on this. Secretlondon (talk) 14:17, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Also, I don't know if anyone has told @SL93, Rusalkii, and Miraclepine: that we're discussing this. Floquenbeam (talk) 13:53, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Secretlondon:, do you agree with pulling it? Or do you think you understand what they're trying to say well enough to reword the hook? Floquenbeam (talk) 13:50, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Please pull. Fram (talk) 13:32, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Any suggested re-word? I'd hate to pull it, but to be honest, even with Secretlondon's comments, I really don't even understand what the authors of that article, or our article, or this hook are actually trying to say. Floquenbeam (talk) 13:27, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Even the source says "elevational range limit" ie a range. People don't understand what they are writing. Secretlondon (talk) 11:30, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- ... that Grim Reaper of Love by the Turtles features an unusual quintuple-meter beat?
Since this is a song, it should be in quotations and not italicized per MOS:NOITALIC. E.g.: ... that "Grim Reaper of Love" by the Turtles features an unusual quintuple-meter beat? Locust member (talk) 14:31, 11 April 2025 (UTC)